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the key is to talk about first exposure and then education and then having the expectations and recently, was talking with a student and we were talking about when i first started working with her and a group of other girls that lived in public housing. >> how old is she? >> she's two. >> -- she's 22. >> oh, my god. >> and she would not necessarily be my greatest story and that idea is we started with her that summer. they had tremendous violence in her neighbor. every night, we went out to dinner and did things and went home. i felt like every night, stepping over caution tape. there was a new murder or new shooting. >> uh-huh. >> and show struggled for years and finally finished, went back and got her ged is going to college and said to me the other day, i appreciate the opportunity to stay connected and for someone to help me focus on breaking the cycle. that is one account. others are, we had a student in the same housing development that is now a freshman at notre dame. >> oh, my gosh. >> and show has stayed with it and worked through her family issues and gone to school at convent
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